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Day time sleeps - or lack there of.. Lock Rss

My DS aged 7months refuses to sleep during the day. I have battled with him since he was 10 wks old to get him to sleep.

I have tried everything to get him to sleep but the second he goes into the cot he screams and screams, and will not stop till he is picked up. I have been to NGALA (specialist sleep hospital in Perth) but they couldn't get him settled either), I have tried bog laps in the car, pram walks (yeh i know thats bad) strict routine of bath, boob, then bed, music, laying down next to him (but he just screams in my ear), controlled comforting for an hour and a half per try, you name it and I have tried it. (and not just for a day either). I have exhausted all ideas and resources that I'm mentally drained and really needing help with this little man.

He is awake in the morning from 6am (roughly) and his next sleep is not till 8pm when i finally give in and put him to the boob and then transfer him to his cot when he is fully asleep.

DS has really bad reflux and on Zoton tablets, his cot is raised, eats 3x solid meals a day and is B/Fed. (if that has helps.)

Oh my goodness does any one out there have any suggestions or tips? Does anyone else have a little one that refuses to go to sleep? I'm going crazy, really needing help, Sorry for essay,

Frazzled,
M.

My DS aged 7months refuses to sleep during the day. I have battled with him since he was 10 wks old to get him to sleep.

I have tried everything to get him to sleep but the second he goes into the cot he screams and screams, and will not stop till he is picked up. I have been to NGALA (specialist sleep hospital in Perth) but they couldn't get him settled either), I have tried bog laps in the car, pram walks (yeh i know thats bad) strict routine of bath, boob, then bed, music, laying down next to him (but he just screams in my ear), controlled comforting for an hour and a half per try, you name it and I have tried it. (and not just for a day either). I have exhausted all ideas and resources that I'm mentally drained and really needing help with this little man.

He is awake in the morning from 6am (roughly) and his next sleep is not till 8pm when i finally give in and put him to the boob and then transfer him to his cot when he is fully asleep.

DS has really bad reflux and on Zoton tablets, his cot is raised, eats 3x solid meals a day and is B/Fed. (if that has helps.)

Oh my goodness does any one out there have any suggestions or tips? Does anyone else have a little one that refuses to go to sleep? I'm going crazy, really needing help, Sorry for essay,

Frazzled,
M.
I was just typing a similar post myself!!

Sorry, I have no solutions but I am in the same boat with a 19 week old who fights sleep. It's a battle every sleep every day and it's getting worse. My husband works away most of the time and we have just moved to a new area so I have minimal support.

i hope someone will have some helpful solutions for us, but if not, then at least we both know we're not alone.
Can you break it back down to one thing- does he miss you/have bad associations with the cot/need to keep feeding/hurts lying on his back etc?

I've heard raising one end of the cot helps for reflux? 10cm off the ground.. Ask around on that one bc haven't dealt with it personally.
Hi- I can completely sympathise- my now 5 month old has been a catnapper from the day we bought him home from hospital.
He has only just started sleeping through the night (from 6.30/ 7pm to 5.30/6.30 am) and during the day his longest sleep is about 45 minutes. We have tried several types of sleeping and settling routines, but none have changed his habits, so we have changed ours.
During the day he will have three to four sleeps, between 30 and 45 minutes. I have learned to go with his moods- after a small nap he is bright, alert and happy, so I stopped telling myself he HAS TO have 2 hour naps. My baby sleeps through the night, feeds well (he is bottle feed and just started solids) and he has only just encountered his first cold which only lasted a week. Try not to beat yourself up about his habits- you're doing a great job and his habits will change over time. I was so stressed when we were still feeding every 3 hours last month, and now he sleeps beautifully at night- we just spend more time together during the day!
Hope it works out for you! grin
I hope this helps, although you may have tried it....

1. infants friend
2. modified controlled crying? similar to controlled crying but less stressful in terms of how long to try for and you are with them - let me know and I will post it
3. read a book about sleep to them as part of the routine
4. using a sleeping bag instead of blankets?
5. using a comforter?
6. too big for a sling thingy (ie baby bjorn style)?
7. walking in pram early morning in sun...will have to close eyes! make sure not too much direct sun, use white shade cloth
8. music? radio on white noise? when do you put it on? and where?
9. in own room? in cot?
10. how long is he up for? ie between attempts for sleep? 2 hrs?

What sleep associations do you use?
Any distractions near cot? What can the child see?

I hope this helps, although you may have tried it....

1. infants friend
2. modified controlled crying? similar to controlled crying but less stressful in terms of how long to try for and you are with them - let me know and I will post it
3. read a book about sleep to them as part of the routine
4. using a sleeping bag instead of blankets?
5. using a comforter?
6. too big for a sling thingy (ie baby bjorn style)?
7. walking in pram early morning in sun...will have to close eyes! make sure not too much direct sun, use white shade cloth
8. music? radio on white noise? when do you put it on? and where?
9. in own room? in cot?
10. how long is he up for? ie between attempts for sleep? 2 hrs?

What sleep associations do you use?
Any distractions near cot? What can the child see?


Hi there and thank you for your post.

- I do use sleeping bags for DS as he kicks off his blankets in temper.

- He gets a dummy, but recently has been spitting it out and refusing to
have it again.

- I always make a point of having classical music on (as it's supposed to stimulate brain development)

- DS is in his own room/cot, and has been since day dot.

- Nglal (specialist sleep centre in Perth, WA) say that a child of 6-7month old should be working on 2 - 2 1/2 hours up then 2- 2/1/2 hours sleep. (roughly guide only) so I try for 2 1/2 hours up in morning then put him down for a sleep.

- Sleep association(unfortunately) is boob then bed when zzz. (i know it's so bad, but with a 2yr old running around, and me being so mentally exhausted I do what I gotta do just to get this little man some zzz)

- I can get DS to sleep in a pram while out walking, but lets face it I cant' go walking every nap time. He loves (and sleeps) in the bjorn carrier but again I can;t go around every nap time carrying him. (Ds is only 5.5kg so bjorn works)

I have even tried formula for a week thinking that maybe he wasn't getting enough milk from me but that didn't work and made him so much more spewy.

Are you able to email me the other version of controlled comforting?

I don't know what else to try or do. Hope you can think of some magical things cause i'm quite sure i'm not the only mummmy going nuts! smile

Thanks again,
M. xx
hi there,
My DD is nearly 11 months and too has been a catnapper from the start. She will rarely have a sleep longer than an hr most thime its half hr and only 2 naps a day. today so far she has been up since 7.30am and its now 12.15pm and is still wide awake. I have tried putting her down for a nap, but no it was more fun playing and chewing on the cot than sleeping. she was in there for 45 mins too. I dont really have much advise/help, sorry. I thought maybe once she started crawling around she would get tired but nope!! Im only hoping she will sleep when we go out later!!
Have you tried a swing? I know they tell you not to put babies in there to sleep because they get use to the motion, but somedays it was the only thing I could use to get her to sleep during the day. I bought a fisher and price one on ebay for a third of the cost a brand new one ($45). It has three recline settings so that you can use from birth till about 13kg. DD doesnt sleep in it anymore, we use it like a park swing for her now.
Hi my DD is 7 1/2 months old and has never been a fantastic sleeper during the day, at the moment I am lucky if I get 2 45 min naps out of her!! She is a happy healthy wee girl so I try not to stress about it!! I don't time how long she has been up for instead I look for the first sign that she is ready for a nap 1e. yawning, rubbing eyes etc. She has a musical mobile at the end of her bad so I wind that up, have a cuddle for a few moments, explain to her in a soft voice that is time for her nap, give her a kiss on the forehead and tell her I will see her when she wakes up!! Pop her in her cot, tuck her in and leave quietly! I guess once I started to be alot more relaxed about it so did she!! Hope this helps! Its hard when they don't sleep cuz I always felt like I was depriving her of something that she really needed!! smile grin smile
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Hi - Kylogie you mention that you have a modified control crying method. Just wondering if you might be able to post it. I am currently trying to get my 6mth old to self settle and have longer day sleeps plus stop waking every 2hrs at night but am not happy to leave her cry for long.
Thanks
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